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Post by BananaMuffin on Sept 20, 2007 22:18:26 GMT -5
Alright. Let me rephrase that. If a random person off the street got their hands on a bomb and killed like 100,000 people wouldn't it be ok to torture then kill them.
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Post by Marina on Sept 20, 2007 22:23:03 GMT -5
No. If you torture you are just as bad as the criminal.
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Post by BananaMuffin on Sept 20, 2007 22:30:59 GMT -5
But theres a big difference between torturing one person and killing 100,000
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Post by The Kimmeth. >_> on Sept 21, 2007 12:23:19 GMT -5
Yes, there is a big difference, but that doesn't matter. You're still inflicting pain upon the criminal; therefore making you just like the criminal.
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Post by BananaMuffin on Sept 22, 2007 2:11:09 GMT -5
But wouldn't it make it ok! They should get a cut for each person they killed! Thats the main thing I hate, that you get arrested for killing someone who murders many innocents.
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Post by The Kimmeth. >_> on Sept 24, 2007 12:23:02 GMT -5
But wouldn't it make it ok! They should get a cut for each person they killed! Thats the main thing I hate, that you get arrested for killing someone who murders many innocents. Will you shut the fuck up. Please? It's not okay. How would you feel if you were tortured to death? Additionally, what if you were framed, or what if you actually didn't do it?
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Post by BananaMuffin on Sept 24, 2007 18:25:23 GMT -5
This is the Kira one we are talking about not the torture one. But let me put it into simple terms.
Your a criminal who wants to kill again but is scared. Would Kira stop you?
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Post by The Kimmeth. >_> on Sept 24, 2007 19:48:37 GMT -5
This is the Kira one we are talking about not the torture one. But let me put it into simple terms. Your a criminal who wants to kill again but is scared. Would Kira stop you? Once again, killing is either for passion or for a reason. So let me tell you what I (and other people with the same moral values as mine) would do for both situations. _________________________________________ 1. Killing for a reason. (non-serial killing)a: If a certain person, or a certain group of people stole something of mine of little value, I will stop, because it's a stupid thing to die for. b: If I have to kill someone because I need money or other physical things, I might care if I die in the process depending on how much I need the certain thing. c: If it's for revenge, and my feeling for revenge is strong enough, I wouldn't care if I die in the process. d: If I have to defend someone I love very much and had to kill a person or a group of people, I wouldn't care if I died in the process. e: If I have to kill someone because of business, I might stop depending on how much I love my job, or how much I need the job. 2.: Killing for a Passion (serial killing)a: If killing people people is a very VERY deep passion of mine, then I wouldn't care if I died doing it, because I'd love it too much to stop. b: If killing people was a below basic passion of mine, (I do it every now and then because i'm bored) i would stop, because I wouldn't care if I had to stop, because it's a below basic passion, so I could easily replace it with something else. _______________________________________________ Additionally, your question will get a different answer for different people. For example: (this is depending on what situtaion) 1.Cowardly people will stop no matter what, brave people will continue.
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Post by BananaMuffin on Sept 24, 2007 20:22:40 GMT -5
In most cases Kira would matter
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Post by The Kimmeth. >_> on Sept 24, 2007 20:26:03 GMT -5
What the hell?
In most cases Kira WOULDN'T matter! -.-'
The whole point of Kira is to fear criminals to stop doing what they're doing, but there are only ONE situtation where I would stop because I was fearful, and TWO situations where I might stop. And that only counts half way.
Therefore, you can't say most.
So basically, there are only 3 (two don't completely count, by the way) out of 7 situations where Kira DOESN'T MATTER
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Post by BananaMuffin on Sept 24, 2007 20:29:08 GMT -5
Woops I'm sorry we are on the wrong board. this is the torture board.
Ok for the serial killers you metioned wouldn't it be ok to torture them if they won't stop if u do anything
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Post by BananaMuffin on Sept 24, 2007 20:51:42 GMT -5
Umm no i know you wrote about Kira there and were talking about Kira but I just used it as an example for the torture thing
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Post by The Kimmeth. >_> on Sept 25, 2007 11:45:17 GMT -5
....Why did you delete the post.... And no you didn't. Once again, you did the "i'm always right" thing. You said this was the kira board, but it's the torture board. And because I believed you, I talked about Kira instead of torture. After clearly stating that kira only matter for three situations, you told me the board was about torture instead of kira. Then you changed my Kira-based topic, into torture based. Proof: Woops I'm sorry we are on the wrong board. this is the torture board. Ok for the serial killers you metioned wouldn't it be ok to torture them if they won't stop if u do anything And Nick, shut the hell up. We're not talking about torture, because you said this was about Kira. So we're gonna stick with that. I said if i was a serial killer, I wouldn't stop depending on how high my passion for it is. So i wouldn't care if Kira stopped me. but I'll answer your question anywyas, because you're a stupid fuck and I hate you very much. So here it is: No, it wouldn't be okay to torture them. If they won't stop, they could just put them in a solitary confinement for the rest of their life.
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Post by BananaMuffin on Sept 25, 2007 18:08:31 GMT -5
I mistaked myself when I said it was the Kira board.
But wouldn't solitary confinement just make them thankful for not getting killed.
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Post by The Kimmeth. >_> on Sept 25, 2007 18:20:07 GMT -5
Yes, but still. There's no point in killing someone if there's a safer alternative. If the killer will get a lifetime sentence in a solitary confinement, then he will never kill again, and he'll live. Two positives.
And I'm not gonna bother with the Kira/Torture thing anymore.
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Post by Marina on Sept 25, 2007 18:34:05 GMT -5
I refuse to argue with Nick about anything retarded anymore... From not on whenever an argument becomes circular and stupid I'm out...
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Post by The Kimmeth. >_> on Sept 25, 2007 18:53:19 GMT -5
I refuse to argue with Nick about anything retarded anymore... From not on whenever an argument becomes circular and stupid I'm out... Hear, hear! *leaves as well*
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Post by BananaMuffin on Sept 25, 2007 21:46:14 GMT -5
Lock!
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